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		<title>By: cracking forum</title>
		<link>http://en.expreview.com/2008/01/28/geforce-9800-gx2-dismantled/235.html/comment-page-1#comment-7036</link>
		<dc:creator>cracking forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like something is missing, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like something is missing, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Nvidia 9800GTX Pictures Released! Scores 35k in 3Dmark03 !</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nvidia 9800GTX Pictures Released! Scores 35k in 3Dmark03 !</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The GPU is G92-420. 9800GX2 is G92-450 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TRAX</title>
		<link>http://en.expreview.com/2008/01/28/geforce-9800-gx2-dismantled/235.html/comment-page-1#comment-2688</link>
		<dc:creator>TRAX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 16:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>7950 GX2 came out at EOL for the 7900 series. this sounds like the same thing good way to sell more 8800 chips before the jump to next gen.  BTW the 7950GX2 had very bad support even after being touted as &quot;The&quot; QUAD SLI solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7950 GX2 came out at EOL for the 7900 series. this sounds like the same thing good way to sell more 8800 chips before the jump to next gen.  BTW the 7950GX2 had very bad support even after being touted as &#8220;The&#8221; QUAD SLI solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Leak！9800GTX sample pics are everywhere - Expreview.com</title>
		<link>http://en.expreview.com/2008/01/28/geforce-9800-gx2-dismantled/235.html/comment-page-1#comment-2315</link>
		<dc:creator>Leak！9800GTX sample pics are everywhere - Expreview.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The GPU is G92-420. 9800GX2 is G92-450 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Expreview.com - Extra Hardware News Report! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More details on 9800GTX</title>
		<link>http://en.expreview.com/2008/01/28/geforce-9800-gx2-dismantled/235.html/comment-page-1#comment-2077</link>
		<dc:creator>Expreview.com - Extra Hardware News Report! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; More details on 9800GTX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For your information,  9800GX2&#8217;s GPU is G92-450 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TC</title>
		<link>http://en.expreview.com/2008/01/28/geforce-9800-gx2-dismantled/235.html/comment-page-1#comment-2048</link>
		<dc:creator>TC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently Azaezel and his nvidia fanboism isn&#039;t aware of the fact that ATI already has the top end card.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently Azaezel and his nvidia fanboism isn&#8217;t aware of the fact that ATI already has the top end card.</p>
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		<title>By: Azaezel</title>
		<link>http://en.expreview.com/2008/01/28/geforce-9800-gx2-dismantled/235.html/comment-page-1#comment-2038</link>
		<dc:creator>Azaezel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ATI Fanbois are just angry that ATI has given up on the &#039;High End&#039; market. I don&#039;t know if anyone saw it, but there was an interview with an ATI exec a few months back, and he basically said they&#039;re not competing with Nvidia for the high end anymore, they&#039;re concentrating on the midrange, and consumer level parts. This means more money from OEMs for ATI, which are where MOST of the dollars are spent as far as chips are concerned. This means that it&#039;s unlikely that ATI will have the &#039;speed crown&#039;, unless Nvidia just completely hoses things up, which they have not done for a long time. It&#039;s possible, but unlikely. Look at the G94 chip... it&#039;s a chip that equals, or beats the current &#039;Low-High End&#039; solutions out there like the 8800 GT. In my neck of the woods, the 8800 GS is running around 220 bucks, and the new 9600 GT is giving near equivalent performance for $189 max (when it&#039;s released obviously) The 9800 GX2, just like the 3870x2, is just a stopgap in the high end market for when the RV700, and G100 (or G96, or what have you) chips are released in June(?). At that point, we&#039;ll see... I&#039;d be willing to bet that the RV700 cards are at an incredibly good price VS performace ratio, and the G100/G96 chips are expensive, but yield the best results. June is when the big fight is going to be... this is just a minor skirmish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ATI Fanbois are just angry that ATI has given up on the &#8216;High End&#8217; market. I don&#8217;t know if anyone saw it, but there was an interview with an ATI exec a few months back, and he basically said they&#8217;re not competing with Nvidia for the high end anymore, they&#8217;re concentrating on the midrange, and consumer level parts. This means more money from OEMs for ATI, which are where MOST of the dollars are spent as far as chips are concerned. This means that it&#8217;s unlikely that ATI will have the &#8216;speed crown&#8217;, unless Nvidia just completely hoses things up, which they have not done for a long time. It&#8217;s possible, but unlikely. Look at the G94 chip&#8230; it&#8217;s a chip that equals, or beats the current &#8216;Low-High End&#8217; solutions out there like the 8800 GT. In my neck of the woods, the 8800 GS is running around 220 bucks, and the new 9600 GT is giving near equivalent performance for $189 max (when it&#8217;s released obviously) The 9800 GX2, just like the 3870&#215;2, is just a stopgap in the high end market for when the RV700, and G100 (or G96, or what have you) chips are released in June(?). At that point, we&#8217;ll see&#8230; I&#8217;d be willing to bet that the RV700 cards are at an incredibly good price VS performace ratio, and the G100/G96 chips are expensive, but yield the best results. June is when the big fight is going to be&#8230; this is just a minor skirmish.</p>
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		<title>By: kishisaki</title>
		<link>http://en.expreview.com/2008/01/28/geforce-9800-gx2-dismantled/235.html/comment-page-1#comment-2036</link>
		<dc:creator>kishisaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh man wth a 8 pin power connector that sucks big time, spend more money on new psu ; ;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh man wth a 8 pin power connector that sucks big time, spend more money on new psu ; ;</p>
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		<title>By: Expreview.com - Extra Hardware News Report! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; GeForce 9800 GX2 detail Specifications</title>
		<link>http://en.expreview.com/2008/01/28/geforce-9800-gx2-dismantled/235.html/comment-page-1#comment-2016</link>
		<dc:creator>Expreview.com - Extra Hardware News Report! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; GeForce 9800 GX2 detail Specifications</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 06:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] GeForce 9800 GX2 have been dismantled a long time ago, but NVIDIA still holds the card&#8217;s detailed specifications tight. But finally we now know [...]</description>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://en.expreview.com/2008/01/28/geforce-9800-gx2-dismantled/235.html/comment-page-1#comment-1924</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 06:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the 2 board design isnt really a big deal, it just happens to be that way and as someone else mentioned nVidia is just doing these stop-gap chip updates to keep the battle going till the true next gen. 

   I think nVidia made a mistake but i think people are being to hard on em here what i think it was: when the first 8800s came out and held the crown for awhile things were good. Ati came out with the 2900 that wasnt well recieved. nVidia knew about Atis product releases and probably that the next release would be a real contender so they pulled their R&amp;D and said hey give us something now to keep these gaming crack addicts satiated  and they did with the G92 which seemed to be the new 9xxx series in an early release. Think about it how good is the performance from the 8800GT and GTS compared to the old 320 and 640 Gts&#039;s? What if the release was pushed off until the die size was shrunk down like it was meant to be in the release of the 9800? can you imagine the speed increase then?  

  its just unfortunate labeling on nVidia&#039;s part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the 2 board design isnt really a big deal, it just happens to be that way and as someone else mentioned nVidia is just doing these stop-gap chip updates to keep the battle going till the true next gen. </p>
<p>   I think nVidia made a mistake but i think people are being to hard on em here what i think it was: when the first 8800s came out and held the crown for awhile things were good. Ati came out with the 2900 that wasnt well recieved. nVidia knew about Atis product releases and probably that the next release would be a real contender so they pulled their R&amp;D and said hey give us something now to keep these gaming crack addicts satiated  and they did with the G92 which seemed to be the new 9xxx series in an early release. Think about it how good is the performance from the 8800GT and GTS compared to the old 320 and 640 Gts&#8217;s? What if the release was pushed off until the die size was shrunk down like it was meant to be in the release of the 9800? can you imagine the speed increase then?  </p>
<p>  its just unfortunate labeling on nVidia&#8217;s part.</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oscar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 14:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Ano and Tim. In my honest opinion this design is superior to a one board design. First off, the AMD cad is as big, only cools off of one side, and sure has an internal bridge but that doesn&#039;t really matter, they still sew it together with a simple PCIe bridge chip. NVIDIAS design makes sence, the cooler cools from both sides, is symetrical, sucks air from 2 vents and spreads the hot compnonents over a larger surface. And we all know SLI vs Crossfire drivers, SLI wins anyday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Ano and Tim. In my honest opinion this design is superior to a one board design. First off, the AMD cad is as big, only cools off of one side, and sure has an internal bridge but that doesn&#8217;t really matter, they still sew it together with a simple PCIe bridge chip. NVIDIAS design makes sence, the cooler cools from both sides, is symetrical, sucks air from 2 vents and spreads the hot compnonents over a larger surface. And we all know SLI vs Crossfire drivers, SLI wins anyday.</p>
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		<title>By: ZeLL</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZeLL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 05:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not NVidia&#039;s true next-gen gem.  This is just a &quot;Oh yeah, well, we can do that, too!&quot; move at ATI&#039;s 3870x2.  Both ATI and NVidia have big guns coming out later this year.  These dual-cards are just something to play around with until the real next gen comes along.


Hiiiyoooo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not NVidia&#8217;s true next-gen gem.  This is just a &#8220;Oh yeah, well, we can do that, too!&#8221; move at ATI&#8217;s 3870&#215;2.  Both ATI and NVidia have big guns coming out later this year.  These dual-cards are just something to play around with until the real next gen comes along.</p>
<p>Hiiiyoooo!</p>
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		<title>By: &#124;Ano&#124;</title>
		<link>http://en.expreview.com/2008/01/28/geforce-9800-gx2-dismantled/235.html/comment-page-1#comment-1849</link>
		<dc:creator>&#124;Ano&#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree &quot;Tim&quot;
This looks like a cut and paste design, Nvidia is not what they used to be, atleast Amd have the balls to make a better (more hard work) design.

Nvidia needs to start trying again and don&#039;t act like money hungry idiots.
(people at nvidia ruins this business, and nvidias good name is gone.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree &#8220;Tim&#8221;<br />
This looks like a cut and paste design, Nvidia is not what they used to be, atleast Amd have the balls to make a better (more hard work) design.</p>
<p>Nvidia needs to start trying again and don&#8217;t act like money hungry idiots.<br />
(people at nvidia ruins this business, and nvidias good name is gone.)</p>
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		<title>By: &#124;Ano&#124;</title>
		<link>http://en.expreview.com/2008/01/28/geforce-9800-gx2-dismantled/235.html/comment-page-1#comment-1848</link>
		<dc:creator>&#124;Ano&#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree &quot;Tim&quot;
This looks like a cut and paste design, Nvidia is not what they used to be, atleast Amd have the balls to make a better (more hard work) design.

Nvidia needs to start trying again and don&#039;t act like money hungry idiots.
(people at nvidia ruins this business, and nvidias good name is gone.)

NVIDIA........NO THANKS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree &#8220;Tim&#8221;<br />
This looks like a cut and paste design, Nvidia is not what they used to be, atleast Amd have the balls to make a better (more hard work) design.</p>
<p>Nvidia needs to start trying again and don&#8217;t act like money hungry idiots.<br />
(people at nvidia ruins this business, and nvidias good name is gone.)</p>
<p>NVIDIA&#8230;&#8230;..NO THANKS.</p>
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		<title>By: WebSite Tech4pc &#187; Arquivo &#187; Foto da GeForce 9800 sem cooler</title>
		<link>http://en.expreview.com/2008/01/28/geforce-9800-gx2-dismantled/235.html/comment-page-1#comment-1835</link>
		<dc:creator>WebSite Tech4pc &#187; Arquivo &#187; Foto da GeForce 9800 sem cooler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] segredo foi desvendado após o site ExpReview trazer uma série de fotografias das páginas do fórum ChipHell nas quais mostram a GeForce 9800 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: kayzah</title>
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		<dc:creator>kayzah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 23:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This board looks nice but I hope it will have 2 DVI-Connections in the release-version.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The SLI chip is for bridging two G92-450 chips</description>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t you love how these &quot;leaked&quot; photos happen the same day the ATI x2 cards are for sale.  And seeing the cobble-job wiring, this obviously was &quot;leaked&quot; from nvidia themselves.

As for the comment about the 3870x2 being a bust, I assume your smoking some funny cigarettes.  Although basically its just a crossfire card, just like this Nvidia slap together job will be a SLI setup.  At least the ATI card is all on one single board and required some thinking to design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you love how these &#8220;leaked&#8221; photos happen the same day the ATI x2 cards are for sale.  And seeing the cobble-job wiring, this obviously was &#8220;leaked&#8221; from nvidia themselves.</p>
<p>As for the comment about the 3870&#215;2 being a bust, I assume your smoking some funny cigarettes.  Although basically its just a crossfire card, just like this Nvidia slap together job will be a SLI setup.  At least the ATI card is all on one single board and required some thinking to design.</p>
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